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|ID||Project||Category||View Status||Date Submitted||Last Update|
|0003636||SOGo||Backend Mail||public||2016-04-21 05:08||2019-11-11 10:26|
|Fixed in Version||4.2.0|
|Summary||0003636: SOGo Sieve architecture weird|
In older issues about the Sieve system I find comments by ludovic of this sort:
This, in my opinion, shows a weird design error in the way SOGo treats Sieve.
Sieve consists of a server and a client (e.g. SOGo). However, SOGo kind of behaves as if it is a Sieve server, even though it is a client.
The biggest issue that arises is this:
If a user changes his sieve on the server, using a sieve client that is not SOGo (e.g. Thunderbird, gsieve), SOGo will blindly revert that change. That is not client behaviour. The client should accept that the server is leading, and that it is not the only client that may connect to the server (otherwise the client server architecture is meaningless)
Currently the workaround is to disable the Sieve functionality in SOGo, that way every Sieve client will work except SOGo, otherwise, no Sieve-client works, except SOGo.
Personally I think it would require the least work if SOGo worked as a pure client, and played nice with other Sieve clients. However it would be good as well if SOGo implemented a Sieve server, and let other clients connect to modify the sieves.
I don't expect this change to come quickly (or at all), but I would expect the SOGo developers to give this some serious consideration, since the current behaviour is (in my opinion) ugly and hackish, by using a client-server protocol the wrong way around.
Note: I do not have any problems with SOGo features such as automatically disabling vacation auto-replies, because in doing this SOGo correctly functions as a Sieve client.
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I agree with Ghostbird, though this comment is mainly to subscribe myself to updates on this issue.
I'm encountering the same problem, using manually edited sieve files or thunderbird. Ideally using the managesieve protocol I should be able to edit the same ruleset from any of the above or SoGo and the changes would all be reflected in the others.
I fully agree, the Sieve implementation has a design issue. It is a pity because the web interface is pretty well designed for rules that most users need.
But with the managesieve protocol, I can import/export large number of sieve rules. I can also view & edit them from any email client, such as thunderbird, as the web interface is not the only mail client I will be using.
If too complex, maybe a simplified version (e.g. externally imported rule are read only in the web interface) ?
|2016-04-21 05:08||Ghostbird||New Issue|
|2016-06-06 03:07||RichiH||Note Added: 0010300|
|2016-10-27 02:54||Christian Mack||Relationship added||has duplicate 0003871|
|2017-07-06 11:59||ggiesen||Note Added: 0012047|
|2018-08-13 12:50||aort||Note Added: 0012995|
|2019-11-11 10:26||ludovic||Note Added: 0013888|
|2019-11-11 10:26||ludovic||Status||new => resolved|
|2019-11-11 10:26||ludovic||Fixed in Version||=> 4.2.0|
|2019-11-11 10:26||ludovic||Resolution||open => fixed|
|2019-11-11 10:26||ludovic||Assigned To||=> ludovic|